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marguerite_26 ([personal profile] marguerite_26) wrote2009-05-06 01:51 pm

The Grandfather of all slash: Kirk/Spock makes the news

Newsweek attempts to answer the age old questions:

What the hell is Slash? and Where the hell did it come from?

I'm rather impressed at the accuracy of the article.

Where No Man Has Gone Before

*snort*

quote:
Some stories—including many tales centering around "pon farr," the overpowering Vulcan mating impulse introduced in the episode "Amok Time"—are almost unbelievably explicit, but most are primarily about the creation and maintenance of a romantic relationship.

I have this wicked desire to see what exactly makes something "unbelievably explicit". *g*

Thanks to [livejournal.com profile] romaine24 for the link!!! *twirls you*

[identity profile] marguerite-26.livejournal.com 2009-05-06 07:23 pm (UTC)(link)
YAY!!! for sending the link! I didn't splash your name all over my post just in case you didn't want that. May I credit you for the link?

And yes, it's nice to be recognized as a legitimate way of expressing your appreciation for the fandom. :D

While I'm not sure it's true that most are primarily about the creation and maintenance of a romantic relationship, because of the sheer number of pwp's out there... it's nice that the article implies we aren't just out for titillation.

[identity profile] empress-jae.livejournal.com 2009-05-06 07:25 pm (UTC)(link)
true, and i know that. but the detailing of the acts is what makes it a form of "explicitness"

[identity profile] raitala.livejournal.com 2009-05-06 07:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh God! That's when she 'stumbled' on my reading of "Virtual" isn't it!?! :D
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[personal profile] potteresque_ire 2009-05-06 07:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Hee! I know :) ... oh, if Mudhoney gets into the media ... I'm sure there will be some hardcore Christians going after JKR with pitchforks and say that she has bewitched us and we are all spiraling to hell ... and then ask to ban the books, ban internet and all TV stations (well, except Fox news)

[identity profile] raitala.livejournal.com 2009-05-06 07:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure I'd ever be motivated to provide a logical explanation to its appeal

No, there isn't one, but then there isn't really a 'logical explanation' for the appeal of snooker or stamp collecting or any number of pastimes people indulge in. You either find something interesting and enjoyable or you don't. The slash side of slash...*shrugs* definitely not something you can explain if people don't see it. People have all sorts of different explanations for why people are into slash, but really there isn't a single slash-type person so no one theory would cover it.

[identity profile] empress-jae.livejournal.com 2009-05-06 07:34 pm (UTC)(link)
wait. JKR didn't bewitch us??
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[personal profile] potteresque_ire 2009-05-06 07:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought she might have wiggled her nose at us too, but then ... seeing the amount of plastic surgery she seems to have gone through, I'm not sure whether her nose can move at all :)

(Why, oh why didn't they ask her to play Narcissa?)

[identity profile] empress-jae.livejournal.com 2009-05-06 07:43 pm (UTC)(link)
i'm pretty certain she's lost her ability to blink too. which in turn, of course, makes her the perfect narcissa. i truly believe that narcissa malfoy is just a mary sue in disguise. ;)

[identity profile] marguerite-26.livejournal.com 2009-05-06 07:50 pm (UTC)(link)
narcissa malfoy is just a mary sue in disguise.
lmao!

Well, if I'd written HP and wanted to place myself in the books, I would totally marry myself off to Lucius.

[identity profile] symetric.livejournal.com 2009-05-06 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)
i truly believe that narcissa malfoy is just a mary sue in disguise.
Nooo! Really? If you're serious, may I ask why? :D

[identity profile] empress-jae.livejournal.com 2009-05-06 07:54 pm (UTC)(link)
amen. or pansy. i mean, we have to assume that canon-wise, she (at some point) got a piece of draco. ;)

[identity profile] symetric.livejournal.com 2009-05-06 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, they catch on so fast. How many years did it take them now?

[identity profile] marguerite-26.livejournal.com 2009-05-06 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
hee! But I can't believe JKR would give herself a pug-like nose.

[identity profile] marguerite-26.livejournal.com 2009-05-06 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
*evil grin*
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[personal profile] potteresque_ire 2009-05-06 08:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Not sure whether Narcissa is specifically a Sue ... but in the books, all the mothers are cool and great whereas the fathers are all pretty useless to their children, even if they're nice ....

James Potter Sr... DOA
Lucius Malfoy ... need any explanation? :)
Tobias Snape ... domestic violence
Mr Riddle Se ... playboy, heartbreaker, and calcium supplment to Voldie's rebirth.
Arthur Weasley ... nice, but bitten by snakes, can't fix cars and can't quite feed family.
Remus Lupin ... the runaway dad
Harry Potter ... the names, the NAMES!
Ron Weasley ... encourage discrimination of the Malfoy kind

[identity profile] empress-jae.livejournal.com 2009-05-06 08:03 pm (UTC)(link)
hmm...well, i've never actually thought about it, but now that i am, i guess i just see some similarities, but on different levels. she's said that hermione is based off of her, but that's referring to herself as a child. as adults, narcissa risked everything for draco; for that one chance that he would survive and have a better life. JK kind of did the same thing with her idea of Harry Potter. she took a chance at hopefully being able to offer her daughter a better life. it paid off for both women.

[identity profile] empress-jae.livejournal.com 2009-05-06 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
that's the disguise! ;)

[identity profile] marguerite-26.livejournal.com 2009-05-06 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
James Potter Sr... DOA

bwahahahahahaha!

Oh, he sucked as a father. DOA!

I love your cruel streak, pie.

but, yeah.. some seriously shitty fathers. Oh, there's Marvolo Gaunt too. Nasty bit o' work there.
Edited 2009-05-06 20:07 (UTC)

[identity profile] symetric.livejournal.com 2009-05-06 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Basically she's trying to put out the message that women rule. Which we do... but no need to rub it in! Those poor daddies. *pets them*
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[personal profile] potteresque_ire 2009-05-06 08:08 pm (UTC)(link)
*Nods* And Mr Longbottom ... *circles fingers around temple and whistles* :)

(Hee hee, sorry for dropping comments all over the place on your posT! ♥)

[identity profile] empress-jae.livejournal.com 2009-05-06 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Lucius Malfoy ... need any explanation? :)

you mean promoting bigotry and inbreeding to ensure a so-called pure blood line is NOT the proper way to raise a child? I'M SHOCKED.

[identity profile] symetric.livejournal.com 2009-05-06 08:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Is that in the article (which I haven't read yet! *despair*) or did you calculate that in your head/on paper? If so, man you're good.

[identity profile] empress-jae.livejournal.com 2009-05-06 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
what are you apologizing for? this thread is made of so much win. go me! :P
Edited 2009-05-06 20:11 (UTC)
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[personal profile] potteresque_ire 2009-05-06 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey, that's the tradition of most pre 20th century monarchies around the world!! :) ... that's, er, royal treatment.

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